In my understanding, the present establishment TM discourse is not even serious about the epistemological principles of the system they propagate, only moulding it to the modern and commercial interests.
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I firmly believe that it is possibleāindeed, necessary āto respect the rationality of science while holding it accountable. Here I find the distinctions offered by Alan Sokal and Jean Bricmont very useful. They offer four different meanings of the word āscienceā:
an intellectual endeavor, aimed at rational understanding of the world; a collection of accepted theoretical and experimental ideas; a social community with particular mores, institutions and links to the larger society; and finally applied science and technology. (Sokal and Bricmont, 1998, p. 202)When I defend science as a ālingua francaā of the modern world and emphasize its unfulfilled potential for secularization in India, I mean first and foremost science in the first sense of the word, as an intellectual endeavor. The unique features of this intellectual endeavor are described well by Alan Sokal in words which describe my own understanding of science very well:By science I mean a worldview giving primacy to reason and observation and a methodology aimed at acquiring accurate knowledge of the natural and social world. This methodology is characterized, above all else, by the critical spirit: namely, commitment to the incessant testing of assertions through observations and/or experimentsāthe more stringent the tests the betterāand to revising or discarding those theories that fail the test. One corollary to the critical spirit is falliblism: the understanding that all our empirical knowledge is tentative, incomplete and open to revision in the light of new evidence or cogent new arguments (although the most well-established aspects of scientific knowledge are unlikely to be discarded entirely). (Sokal, forthcoming)Of course, science as an intellectual endeavor operates within the messy here and now of social-political institutions linked to powerful business and militaryāindustrial interests. That is to say, science is the first and second senses are not insulated from science in the third and fourth senses, above. But to say that they are interlinked is very different from saying that they are inseparable or co-constructed. The problem that Sokal, myself and other critics of science studies have been exercised about is how science studies reads all the undeniable problems at levels three and four (i.e. social institutions and uses of science and technology) into the levels one and two (the world-view and methods). It is not so much the critique of science we object to, but this disregard for distinctions between context and the content, uses and the logic. This total critique of science is self-defeating, because in order to protest against the worst excesses of science and technology, it demolishes the very possibility of impartial evidence which is needed for intelligent, evidence-based public policy intervention in controlling the uses of science and technology.To return to Ramanās critique, when I talk of the worldview of science as the lingua franca for the modern world, I am by no means suggesting that we close our eyes to the possibility of distortion of the worldview and even content of science, nor am I suggesting that any new application that results from well-attested scientific theories (e.g., the Green Revolution) must be automatically given the seal of approval. All I am suggesting is that we critique every aspect of science and its applications while retaining and respecting a qualitative distinction between the social and the epistemic, the context and the content. In the absence of such a distinction, science becomes politics by another name. I realize that the distinction between the social context and the logic of science is seen by many as not āradical enoughā. But I believe that radical politics requires that we refrain from being too āradicalā in deconstructing science into its social context."
Epistemological relativism, Turnbull argues, is not a luxury but a necessity forced upon us by the realization that there āthere does not exist a fixed universal set of standards of logic, rationality, truth and methods that are sufficient to choose between competing knowledge claimsā Science studies, he argues, has shown that all these protocols of good reasoning and rules of evidence which we thought were universal are actually co-produced by specific knowledge traditions. Echoing the Strong Programme, Turnbull argues, since we all approach nature through āsocially and culturally inflectedā¦ontological assumptions about space, time, agency, subjectivity, causality, structureā¦ā we are āirredeemably stuck in the meshes of our own ways of knowing and actingā. Because there is no position external to these meshes of our own ways of knowing and acting, we have no choice but to accept that there are many forms of knowledge, with none claiming any special privilege.But is it really true that we have, today, no position external to our own local ways of knowing? Is that really true that we have, today, no criteria for choosing better or worse methodological rules and/or ontological assumptions than those supplied by our own cultures? Is that really true, today, that to choose between contradictory epistemologies amounts to erasure or suppression of non-Western cultures and that all we can do is to celebrate them all?But the existence of transcultural knowledge is a fact of our lives and has been since the beginning of the modern era of industrial (and yes, colonial) capitalism. The constantly evolving and growing methodological conventions and conceptual categories of modern science do provide the vantage point outside of any one particular local culture from which the adequacy of traditional epistemologies can be judged. Because social constructivist critics like Turnbull believe that no knowledge can ever break free from the social cultural context of its origin, they treat this fact of transcultural knowledge as one more piece of evidence of Western ways of fact-making masquerading as universally valid method.I, on the other hand, believe very strongly that the universality of modern science can be philosophically grounded in the universal human interest in acquiring reliable knowledge. Let me explain:I am sure that those who, like Turnbull, admire the wisdom and ingenuity of local traditions in solving empirical problems will agree to at least this much: regardless of whatever else might motivate their search for knowledge, all people have an overriding interest in acquiring knowledge that is reliable, in the sense that it can help in controlling and predicting the forces of nature. Undoubtedly, this pragmatic interest in manipulating nature can become the dominant ideology in some cultures under some circumstances, while it remains covered with religious taboos and superstitions in other cultures in some circumstance, leading to problems in both cases. But one can agree that it is an interest shared across cultures. If we can agree upon this minimal motivation for science, we can safely say that following the methodological conventions and values of modern science (e.g., choose those theories that pass more stringent tests, assume naturalism, do not invoke forces that are in principle unobservable to explain empirical phenomena) is a preferable way to conduct inquiry in all cultures. Cultures with different ontological categories can still agree on methodological rules of science, because all cultures have an interest in reliable knowledge, and science has a proven track record of picking out reliable knowledge more often than other ways of setting up inquiry.The tragedy is, as I have tried to point out in the Prophets, that while even the most remote cultures in the world are becoming adept at using technologies that embody the reliable and dependable knowledge produced by modern science, the rules of method of science are not being applied to test the efficacy of traditional epistemologies or the validity of traditional ontologies. This has created a situation where highly destructive technologies are put at the service of religious passions which are being justified in vocabulary of ancient faiths and local knowledges. A defense of localism and multiculturalism in this context can only fan the flames.So, my response to Turnbull is that we are not āirredeemably stuck in the meshes of our own ways of knowing and actingā. Turnbullās preference for localism is his choice, not a necessity imposed upon us by the necessarily āco-produced nature of all knowledgeā. (Indeed, the kind of complete intertwining of nature and culture that Turnbull is buying into was a characteristic of pre-modern societies. For more on the subject of co-construction, see my comments on Helen Verran, below.)In my opinion, Turnbullās support of a worldview which allows ācelebration of pluralism and incommensurabilityā is not productive. Take, for example, his insistence that multiple (though unspecified) ontologies of different cultures are resources for finding solutions to the problems of global warming. I fail to understand how different understandings of causes and mechanisms will actually contribute to the solutions which, in addition to all other socio-economic reforms, will require scientific-technical solutions. How will different ontological schemes actually help us understand the real mechanisms are actually working to raise the temperature here on earth?
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Epistemological dichotomy: a flawed argument
Many scholars tend to argue that Western science and Ayurveda are two epistemologically different yet equally valid and mutually exclusive systems. Their argument is that all Ayurveda theories in their entirety remain relevant and can be shown to be correct using Ayurvedic logic and Ayurvedic methods. They also suggest that viewing these theories from a Western scientific perspective is wrong.
The argument proposing an epistemic divide suggests that Ayurvedaās knowledge originates from Nyaya-Vaisheshika schools of philosophy, which is misunderstood as being epistemologically distinct from Western science. This perspective is flawed as the principles in Nyaya-Vaisheshika closely resemble those in contemporary science, differing primarily in the tools usedāancient scholars employed basic instruments while we now utilise advanced ones. For example, pratyaksha meant using the sense organs to acquire knowledge in ancient times, while we now use instruments such as microscopes for the same purpose.
It is essential to remember that when Ayurveda was documented, the research methods were still in their nascent stage. Ignoring this historical fact, some scholars such as Sandhya Patel and others [1: readersā comments] went to the extent of indirectly proposing the āepistemic superiorityā of Ayurveda. They argued that ancient rishis were able to obtain special knowledge through their divine powers. However, this logic fails because there are diverse and often mutually contradictory views recorded in Ayurveda on many topics. If such a phenomenon were true, such a situation should not have arisen [4].
In fact, this approach of proposing a ādistinctionā has harmed Ayurveda in the name of preserving our tradition. This position essentially questions the universality of the scientific attitude and, more importantly, discredits all evidence-based science documented in Ayurveda textbooks [5]. This argument also overlooks the simple fact that not all methods are equally accurate and effective in drawing valid conclusions. It is akin to asserting that ancient scholars, who lacked microscopes, had hypothesised about ghosts causing diseases, and that these ideas are just as valid as modern microbiology.
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I am an Allopathic
physician of Indian origin. Did Undergraduate medical degree in India
and post graduation in internal Medicine in UK and USA. I am Board
certified in internal Medicine and cardiology. Have been practicing
Medicine for more than 4 decades in Uk and USA.
I have not studied Ayurvedic medicine in a systematic manner . However
,I know basics of Ayurveda, Sanatana Dharma and Indian Art.
Dr GL krishnaās discussion is very logical, shows his complete grasp
of the material and is very thought provoking. I concur with his
opinion fully.
.It is mind boggling to read some of the views still remaining relevant
regarding Human physiology ,cellular genetics etc in Ayurveda as per
some of his challengers mentioned above.
I do not understand how Brilliant, scientific minded Ayurvedic students
and Physicians such as Dr GL krishna continue to participate in
teaching, Learning and practicing such Nonsensical views of basic Human
physiology in Ayurveda. Ayurvedic medicine is an ancient, well thought
out (with limited resources available at that time), nevertheless put
forward by the Great sages, Sushruta and Charaka who had a piercing
vision and mastery in understanding of Human body and Metaphysics ofā
Being a Humanā
Ayurvedic medicine shows a great way of Healthy living, Healthy eating
habits, Physical exercise, Mind control, congruence in Mind-Body and
soul , and being not in a state of DIS ease rather than Being in a state
ofā EASEā.
Such a great Medicine should be every indianās pride and joy. It should
be treasured and Nurtured. It needs to be nurtured by making important
revisions, additions and subtractions.
I make a Humble request to Academics in Ayurvedic Medicine to revise
the curriculum of the Ayurveda and bring it up to date with very well
established scientific facts and randomized trials etc and bring it to
21 st century and beyond. There does not seem to be any shortage of
enthusiastic and Hard working young minds such as Dr GL krishna to
undetake such megaproject. Thanks
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Ayurvedic theories such as the doctrine of doshas need to be demystified, by subjecting them to an evidence-based appraisal, precisely because this demystification is necessary to glean researchable propositions on ayurvedic treatments. Propositions gleaned otherwise would always be subject to valid criticisms from ayurveda physicians. As R H Singh writes in one of his editorials, āAny research which does not take into account the denominators of ayurvedic biology such as Tridosha, Saptadhatu, Ojabala, Agnibala, Ama and srotas, that kind of research cannot be considered as ayurvedic research. It is merely a blind research endeavour.ā (Paraphrased from his editorial āAyurveda based scientific methodology for research in Ayurvedaā; Annals of Ayurvedic Medicine Vol-6 Issue-3-4 Jul-Dec, 2017)
So, the present articleās view that solving theoretical problems āneed not precede or preclude the evaluation of Ayurvedic treatments using modern methods given the potential utility of Ayurveda interventions,ā misses the nuance involved in the subject.
Until the theories are cogently demystified and theoretical imperatives are clearly understood, it would be difficult to arrive at unanimous treatment protocols that are worthy of being tested.
During the COVID pandemic, for instance, the AYUSH ministry released a treatment protocol that I found grossly wanting*. I suggested another protocol through a journal editorial**. Such a lack of unanimity in arriving at researchable protocols is, in part, due to an inadequate grasp of ayurvedaās theories and their imperatives.
* https://confluence.ias.ac.in/why-the-national-ayurveda-protocol-on-covid-management-appears-wanting/
** https://articles.theindianpractitioner.com/index.php/tip/article/download/1006/946/